How the most connected man in Toronto came back from death

Bob Ramsay is certainly one of Toronto’s pre-eminent connectors, a person with 5,000 private e mail addresses in his laptop. The communications skilled writes opinion items for media shops and speeches for CEOs, and runs a audio system’ collection that often presents thinkers from Niall Ferguson to Malcolm Gladwell. Husband to distinguished MAiD (medical help in dying) doctor Jean Marmoreo, Ramsay can be creator of the arresting memoir Love or Die Making an attempt: How I Misplaced It All, Died, and Got here Again for Love.

In it he writes about his Edmonton childhood, the cocaine dependancy that destroyed his enterprise and upended his life at age 40, how his relationship with Marmoreo started in soul-baring telephone conversations from an Atlanta therapy centre, and their reworked life collectively afterwards—mountaineering, marathon operating and circumnavigating Manhattan Island by kayak in 2019, when Ramsay was 70 and Marmoreo, 77. And likewise in regards to the extreme well being setbacks he’s had prior to now decade, from dying, albeit briefly, throughout open-heart surgical procedure to strokes and bladder most cancers. Love or Die Making an attempt is a story of (close to) loss of life, skillfully conveyed in an amusing approach, and a love story, described rather more earnestly, with a big solid of well-known Torontonians passing by each elements.

This interview has been edited and condensed for readability.

There may be a whole lot of your life on this e-book, however one query that pops up very early in it’s, simply what number of occasions did you “die?”

A: A number of, a number of, however higher is the way in which—after I used to be saved from my bladder most cancers—that a terrific pal of mine put that query: what number of occasions has that girl saved your life? For now, each Jean and I are hanging in, triple vaccinated and for essentially the most half staying up north.

Bob and Jean get pleasure from a morning run, in Toronto, in 2012 ({Photograph} by Cole Garside)

That first brush with loss of life was a decade in the past, so what was the genesis of writing your e-book now?

It did truly start in 2011 after I had my open-heart surgical procedure and died. I wished to jot down a e-book about that, and I put collectively a proposal. Michael Levine, my agent, despatched it round to all of the publishers—and I take care of publishers on a regular basis, flying in all these writers by my audio system company—and each single certainly one of them turned it down. I used to be, in fact, deeply insulted. So, Michael talked me down off the ledge and finally I obtained the story positioned in Maclean’s. Then all these different issues occurred. And I assumed I’d like to provide this e-book thought one other go, this time not simply the story of my coronary heart, however the issues since and the issues earlier than, the previous days and the medication. Then Michael stated, “I don’t suppose it needs to be a loss of life story, as a result of folks do loss of life tales on a regular basis, however anyone who’s identified you for 30 seconds will know of your love for Jean. Why don’t you write a love story?“

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How a lot did the story change within the writing, now that it’s a loss of life and love story?

It did change as a result of it turned extra ongoing. I wouldn’t name it a late-life love story—like lots of people, Jean and I view previous folks as those that are 5 to 10 years older than we’re. So name it a mid-life/late-life love story that started 31, 32 years in the past. Then throughout the writing got here COVID, which modified every thing—the e-book didn’t finish the place and the way I assumed it might. It type of ends after which it ends once more and it ends once more and it ends once more.

Sure, very a lot an “Oh, and by the way in which” e-book.

Yeah, yeah. I wished to incorporate the big battle Jean and I had within the early days of the pandemic as a result of it reveals how very completely different we’re. Jean is a MAiD physician, and she or he believes within the system and that she’s led a full life, and that when it’s time to go, it’s time to go. I imply, she was raised on a farm. That’s why she thought, within the early pandemic, that if there was a scarcity of ventilators and she or he obtained sick, she’d refuse one—it ought to go to somebody youthful. She has an entire completely different ethic from me. Mine is guidelines exit the window when your life is on the road, it’s “Holy crap, if I don’t get to the entrance of the road, I’m gonna die.“ So I stated I’ve your POA [power of attorney] for well being and I’ll inform them to place you on a ventilator. So she fired me as POA and handed it on to her physician. I felt fairly marginalized when my spouse fired me.

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You commit a couple of pages to iconic Toronto designer Robert Burns, whose addictions led him to homelessness and early loss of life. Was his destiny a “There however for the grace of God—and Jean” expertise for you?

Oh, Jesus, sure. The explanation why I discuss him is I worshipped the man. He was every thing I wished to be. Robert Burns and Heather Cooper and Jim Donahue took the graphic design world in Toronto within the late sixties and seventies and put it on the world stage. They had been fantastically gifted. They usually led a type of life I feel only a few different folks did then. It was all about events and fascinating folks after which it was about medication. There have been two intervals of medicine in my life, the 1990-91 one I discuss within the e-book, which despatched me to Atlanta, and one round 1980, when Robert and I began doing cocaine collectively. And it obtained very dangerous. I actually nonetheless don’t know the reply to why, however I simply awoke sooner or later and I stated, I can’t do that anymore. I finished. Robert stored on going and he introduced down his firm, introduced down his marriage, introduced down the folks round him and ended up residing on the street. That’s why I put him within the e-book: I finished and he didn’t, he died and I didn’t, and I don’t know why.

Inform me about being a connector.

Wanting again, I feel I’ve all the time been one. Years in the past I had Malcolm Gladwell as a speaker after he had completed Tipping Level, and he was among the many first to popularize the phrase. And he referred to as me a connector. Factor is, I obtained Gladwell to return as a result of his pal, [Globe and Mail journalist] Ian Brown, was my pal as properly. On the launch occasion for my e-book, we had 600 folks, and I used to be interviewed by Ian. “So that you’ve obtained 4 or 5 thousand folks in your e mail listing,” he requested me. “What number of are buddies? “And I stated, 4,500 and I meant it completely. And you possibly can see everyone’s faces go, what the… What my reply says to me is I work very exhausting on maintaining my friendships and deepening them, even when that will get to be a bit a lot for my buddies and for me as properly. My internal urge to place folks collectively is insistent, based mostly on the concept since I like A and I like B, they’re going to love one another. It’s simply who I’m.